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How do you edit a comment in WordPress 2.5?

Posted in wordpress by Mark Jaquith on April 18th, 2008

Are you having trouble figuring out how to edit comments from with in the WordPress 2.5 admin (or on WordPress.com since the admin upgrade) ? Here’s the secret: you have to click the name of the commenter or the name of the site that sent the TrackBack/Pingback.

This sort of mirrors how post edit links work. To edit a post (or a page), you just click the name of the post. That is quite intuitive. I learned that behavior in about a day, and now the old way of clicking the “Edit” link seems strange. I’ve not had the same experience with comments. I think the problem is that comments don’t have a title, like posts do. The title is an obvious click target. It is (generally) unique, and it is a natural answer to the question “which post do I want to edit?” (oh yeah, this one!) Clicking the comment author is not intuitive. You don’t want to edit the comment author, you want to edit the comment. The comment author is often not unique, and doesn’t really work as a “handle” for an individual comment.

I’m not the only one having trouble with this.

I’ve started an Idea in the WordPress Idea forum that suggests we revert to having an “Edit” action link for comments. Go add your two cents there (and then come back here for more discussion).

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  1. snapgrid said, on April 18th, 2008 at 2:33 am

    I haven’t had a problem with editing comments, but my theme displays edit links for logged in admins.

    So far my least favorite thing in WP 2.5 is image uploading. The old one was not great, but the new one just doesn’t fit my brain or something. What’s the best forum for complaining about that? Better yet, where can I volunteer my design services to fix it?

    The best feature of 2.5, besides the overall clean design, is the full screen post editing. FINALLY some breathing room to write.

  2. bobo said, on April 18th, 2008 at 2:53 am

    Wow, thank god for this post! I completely gave up editing a post comment recently (My own in fact) and just deleted the whole thing and wrote it again… mainly because I couldn’t find the edit ‘link’.

    One thing I really don’t get also is… why does WordPress WYSIWYG insist on using Span style for everything? When just a simple will do, it insists on using span style: underline.

  3. Francisco Costa said, on April 18th, 2008 at 3:38 am

    yeah!

  4. bigredpimp said, on April 18th, 2008 at 3:40 am

    @bobo: That’s the old way of doing things. CSS exists for a reason.

  5. lewis said, on April 18th, 2008 at 4:22 am

    Comment edit is much better in v2.5 of WP

  6. Imran Khalid said, on April 18th, 2008 at 7:34 am

    its a helpful post…. Thanks

  7. Lindsey said, on April 18th, 2008 at 8:52 am

    I think that instead of an edit button (which would work, but not as intuitively) there should be a short blurb of the comment (like a title) so that you can locate and edit the comment more easily. The problem I have is by the time I’ve gone back to the WP admin area, I’ve either forgotten the name of the commenter, or the date, or whatever unique bit of data for me to pick out, which is made harder if this person has made multiple comments. So I’d like to see a short bit of the comment there and THAT be clickable for editing. Or, have the blurb PLUS the edit button.

  8. David Bradley said, on April 18th, 2008 at 9:27 am

    It took me a few moments to figure it out too! It’s key to retaining editorial control of one’s publications, correcting typos, fixing broken links etc

    db

  9. that girl again said, on April 18th, 2008 at 9:28 am

    +1

    I think the precise nature of my problem with this is that if I click on the comment author’s name on my blog, I get sent to the comment author’s site. I’m so used to this behaviour on practically every theme out there that I always expect the comment author’s name to link to their site rather than anywhere else. I know that when it comes to tagegory links wordpress.com are quite happy to have the same text linking to entirely different places on the same page, but that’s nuts too ;)

    The word ‘Edit’ doesn’t take up that much screen real estate, but if it did they could always substitute a cute little icon of a pencil. If they wanted to discourage comment editing for drama-prevention purposes, it would be better to do it by publically timestamping revisions rather than hiding the functionality.

  10. Mark Jaquith said, on April 18th, 2008 at 10:36 am

    If they wanted to discourage comment editing for drama-prevention purposes, it would be better to do it by publically timestamping revisions rather than hiding the functionality.

    Nah, I think it was just a fruitless quest for consistency. Don’t really know how it got through usability testing — maybe it wasn’t covered. It came up on the mailing lists before release, but it didn’t get any traction. I thought that I’d get used to it, but I haven’t, which is why I’m bringing it up now. Gave it a shot — still hate it.

  11. jayvee said, on April 18th, 2008 at 10:50 am

    there are plugins that can facilitate for comment-editing. :D

  12. arratik said, on April 18th, 2008 at 12:56 pm

    I stumbled upon that on the first day I started playing around w/2.5. It’s different. Certainly not intuitive.

    One thing that I miss in the comments management screen is having the IP addresses link to a ARIN search instead of displaying all of the comments matching the same IP address like it does now. It probably wouldn’t be too terribly difficult to hack, but I’d love to see the ARIN links come back in a future release.

  13. Kevin Paquet said, on April 18th, 2008 at 1:13 pm

    And I have thought that that’s some kind of bug, I almost thought that the dev team left the EDIT button out. LOL.
    Thanks for the info mark!

  14. bobo said, on April 18th, 2008 at 2:41 pm

    @bigredpimp: Thanks for the info. I agree that CSS exists for a reason, and that it is the old way of doing things (especially with the newer v2.0 xHTML markup) but I do get annoyed at the forced change. It’s easy to say “Don’t use the WYSIWYG editor then.” but realistically it makes posting easier. I’m sure the previous version was less strict.

    On another note, there is just something about the use of the span tag for underlining that seems excessive to me, especially when you consider ‘b’ is replaced by a simple ’strong’; ‘i’ replaced by ‘em’.

    And back to the actual article: happy to see that the idea is getting a high rating! I must try and find my password to login and vote as well.

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  17. Carson Sasser said, on April 18th, 2008 at 8:15 pm

    I thought the presence or absence of an “Edit” link with your comments was determined by your template — which means that it is up to each blog admin. Shows me how much I know (or don’t know).

    Oh, I’m forgetting about the WordPress.com users again.

  18. Mark Jaquith said, on April 18th, 2008 at 11:38 pm

    Carson, we’re talking about link to edit comments from within the admin — not on your blog itself. That hasn’t changed (and yes, is completely up to your templates).

    On another note, there is just something about the use of the span tag for underlining that seems excessive to me

    The <u> element is deprecated, which is why TinyMCE (WordPress’s Visual Editor) converts it to CSS using spans. Search google for “underline tag deprecated” for more information.

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  20. Ozh said, on April 19th, 2008 at 3:34 am

    I also suggested that the edit link was really missing and everybody was apparently thinking the same. I don’t get why it was not included back.

    So now, well, I’m using my own “Absolute Comments” plugin which, amongst other things, brings that link back.

  21. Martin said, on April 19th, 2008 at 3:58 am

    Get the “Ozh’ Absolute Comments” plugin for WP 2.5, best comments plugin there is!

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  23. Jeff said, on April 19th, 2008 at 8:11 am

    I will add a third endorsement to the Absolute Comments plugin. This will solve the issue anyone is having where it isn’t intuitive to click the name of the comment, and it also solves ever having to go to the actual post to respond to a comment. There is now an easy “reply” button that immediately brings up a window with an @ symbol to the last reply for your convenience. Already saved me a ton of time.

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  25. that girl again said, on April 19th, 2008 at 11:07 am

    This will solve the issue anyone is having where it isn’t intuitive to click the name of the comment

    Um, not quite. WordPress.com users can’t install plugins.

  26. Carly said, on April 20th, 2008 at 9:10 am

    I too had problems finding this… took me ages to figure it out. I thought that clicking the commenter’s name would take me to their site, for some reason.

    :-)

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  28. Viper007Bond said, on April 20th, 2008 at 11:33 pm

    Yeah, I agree exactly. The new post editing method makes tons of sense and doesn’t take much to get used to, but I still forget sometimes on how to edit comments.

  29. Jonathan said, on April 20th, 2008 at 11:37 pm

    Actually, what I’d prefer is if we made the comment itself clickable, rather than add an edit link. In Flickr, for example, if you want to edit the text under a photo, you click the paragraph and it turns into a text box containing the previous text. Then you simply edit it, and click out of the box to save your changes. Couldn’t we do something like this relatively easily? We could even have a Save button show up under the text field if you like that better than clicking outside the box.

    (Echoed from WP Ideas forum)

  30. John said, on April 22nd, 2008 at 9:21 am

    @Jonathan
    Editing the comments in this way could lead to some problems. Clicking where you didn’t mean to, editing and such, all without knowing. I agree, this makes flickr very easy, but there is something about not having to click anything that makes me a little weary.

    Also, how often is everybody editing comments? I never do it myself, they either get deleted as spam or they get posted. If it is something that is defamatory, it isn’t edited, simply deleted. I don’t like changing what others have said. What are others using this for?

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  32. Mark Jaquith said, on April 23rd, 2008 at 12:14 pm

    What are others using this for?

    One use case is when someone leaves a good comment, but for their URL fills in something spammy or bacn-y. You don’t want to throw the ham out with the bacn, so you just blank out their URL.

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  34. EL CHAVO! said, on May 1st, 2008 at 12:13 am

    A hat tip to you Sir! I wasted lots of time trying to find the edit comment link, and only now found it after a google search. Gracias.

  35. DHS said, on May 4th, 2008 at 11:04 pm

    “You are not allowed to delete this post.” That’s what I get. Of course, the blog has over 25,000 !!!! comments, all spam of course. How do I delete them all in one fell swoop?

  36. giddy tigress said, on June 29th, 2008 at 10:17 pm

    Ooh, thanks! I was going out of my mind everytime I tried to edit a comment and it brought me to my blog post instead! LOL

  37. Elkerton said, on July 3rd, 2008 at 12:22 am

    Bless you! I’d been through my site and the Codex for hours. Wish I’d found this blog at the beginning!

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